Интересует собственно клейма на винтвоках системы Энфилда Р14, ну и маузеры. К примеру на ствольной коробке (Энфилд Р14) ERA 308303 Что означает?
Спасибо! По Энфилдам вообще не реально найти что либо? Есть предпожение, что ERA - Enfield Rifle Arsenal, а 308303 - 30 - год выпуска, 8 - неизвестно, 303 - калибр (.303 British - 7.71мм). И еще странное клеймо в казенной части ствола - цветок (похоже), с восмью лепестками, внизу номер винтовки. Но помойму совсем бредово, нужны каталоги.
вот те три как и обещал а вот по союзникам - ну просто не знаю и не имею справочной литературы. не тот у меня круг интересов. ничем не могу помочь.
вот кое что, но извеняйте по английски... MARKINGS, MAKERS, MODELS SMLE No.1 MkIII and III* British proofs stamped on breech end of barrel, receiver ring, bolt head, bolt body. Serial number stamped on barrel breech, receiver, stem of bolt handle. Other markings usually stamped on right side of butt socket, including a proof mark, manufacturer, date and model designation as follows, top to bottom: Crown with letters G.R. (for George Rex) on top. Name or initials of manufacturer (one of the following): ENFIELD (Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock, Middlesex, England) B.S.A.Co. (Birmingham Small Arms Co., Birmingham, England) L.S.A.Co. (London Small Arms Co., of London) ISHAPORE (Ishapore Arsenal, India) LITHGOW (Lithgow Arsenal, Australia) The date (year) of manufacture. Model designation, as follows: ShtL.E. III (or III*) The meanings of the model designations are as follows: Mk III (WW1 production, w/magazine cutoff and metal disks inset in fore-end to accept the long-range "volley" sight) Mk III* (wartime modification to speed production, eliminating magazine cutoff and "volley" sight disk) The letters ShtL.E. mean "Short Lee-Enfield" (but are sometimes pronounced "Shittley" by those who don't like the rifle!). The abbreviation SMLE (Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield) is also used to describe these rifles. It is sometimes pronounced "Smellie", by fans and detractors alike! By the way, some folks claim "Short, Magazine" means it has a trimmer, slimmer magazine box than previous Enfields, but this is not so. The "Short" means the rifle is shorter in length than previous issues. The "Magazine" merely indicates, in British Armororese, that it HAS one. In Britain, the No1 Mk III was discontinued in favor of the No4 in the late 1930s, but LITHGOW Arsenal in Australia continued to manufacture this rifle on through the end of WW2. One possible explanation for this is that by the time the No4 became standardized, the Japanese were occupying most of the South Pacific, and there was no way to ship the tooling and specifications for the No4 to Australia. Another possible reason is that the Aussies were happy with the No1 MkIII and saw no good reason to convert to the newer rifle. If someone can provide documented reasons for the Aussies' retention of the No1 MkIII, I'll happily add it to this document. LEE-ENFIELD No4 Adopted in about 1940, most of the No4 rifles were made under difficult wartime conditions in England, the US, and Canada. The marking systems used on these rifles were many and varied, and far too complex to be described in full detail here (see Bibliography). Most No4s were proof-marked, serial numbered, and dated, generally marked with the model designation and the name and/or place of manufacture. Proof marks were usually stamped on the barrel breech, receiver ring, bolt head and bolt body. Serial number and date (year) of manufacture were usually stamped on the left side of the butt socket, though sometimes these will be on the left side of the receiver instead. Or both. Or neither. Depends on the arsenal, the year, and who was running the stamping machine that day. Really... The model designation was usually stamped on the left side of the receiver, as follows: No4 MkI (original No4 pattern) No4 MkI* (modification w/simplified bolt removal) No4 Mk 1/2 (cvted to Mk2: trigger pivoted in bracket brazed to butt socket) No4 Mk 1/3 (cvted to Mk2: trigger pivoted directly to butt socket) No4 MkII (trigger pivoted directly to butt socket, not a conversion) If there is a (T) after the Mark designation this indicates a sniper rifle. The No.5 carbines are marked "No.5" followed by the Mark designation. Three firms in England made the No4 rifles. Each firm was assigned blocks of serial numbers so that no two rifles would have the same number. The number is stamped (or sometimes etched!) on the left side of the butt socket. Manufacturers markings are as follows: FY or ROF(F) = Royal Ordnance Factory in Fazakerly, Lancashire M or RM or ROF(M) = Royal Orndance Factory at maltby, Yorkshire B or 85B or M 47 = BSA-controlled company in Shirley, near Birmingham The word ENGLAND is often stamped on the receiver ring of these rifles. No5 Jungle carbines were manufactured at Fazakerly exclusively. Beware of fakes! Additionally, No4 MkI* rifles were made in Canada and the US. The Canadian rifles, made at Long Branch Arsenal near Toronto, Ontario, were marked LONGBRANCH on the left side of the receiver. Rifles made in the US by Savage Arms Co., (in the former J. Stevens Arms Co., plant in Chicopee Falls, MA) were stamped U.S. PROPERTY on the left side of the receiver, to satisfy bureaucratic necessity under the Lend-Lease arrangement with England). Sometimes a No4 will be found with overstamped markings, including the cryptic letters "FTR". This indicates the rifle has undergone a "Factory Through Repair", a complete Arsenal overhaul and reconditioning. Most "FTR"s were done after World War Two, and the rifles will be stamped (or over-stamped) with post-war dates. All such work was done at Fazakerly Arsenal, and included the following procedures: All rifles upgraded to MkII status (usually as MkI/2 or MkI/3), adjustable rear sights installed, rifles with less than 85% blue (black) refinished, wood replaced if necessary, barrels gauged and replaced if necessary. For collectors, these "FTR"d rifles (with a few exceptions) are not highly desired, due to the unavoidable mixing/restamping of parts, but from a shooter's point of view, these "FTR" rifles are exceptional values. Most bores will be *mint*, headspace will be within spec, and fitting of parts will be first-rate. If you are shopping for a good shooting Enfield, look for an "FTR"d rifle! а вообще тут полно инфо:http://www.public.asu.edu/~roblewis/SMLE/IIID2a11a2.html
Может кто подскажет? Попался затворчик то МГ-34, Состояние на 4 с "-". При продирании рашпилем нужных поверхностей номеров, как впрочем и "куриц" не обнаружено. Даже клейим изготовителя нету! Зато на каждой мелкой детальке - буковки типа: "SS", "X", "BH" и "ХВ". Может кто сталкивался?
За бугром они наф-г не нужны. Например, в Вене на супермаркете "Зюд" этого хватает. Все в принципе работоспособное, хотя склады у них сырые!. Ли-Энфилд стоит ок 1200 шишлингов (120 у.е.). Есть таи все: Немцы, русские, австрия, англия, америки малость было. Почему не резаное? Так закон такой - если стволу более 50 лет то в Австрии из него стрелять опасно! Гы-гы!
