Армии Венгрии и Румынии

Тема у розділі 'Союзники Німеччини', створена користувачем wermut, 4 кві 2007.

  1. Сребреница

    Сребреница Oberschütze

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    Darkfisher, как у вас с франуцузским? У меня не очень. А есть текст по теме.
     
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  3. Darkfisher

    Darkfisher Moderator

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    С французским в ладах мои камрады. Текст... буду очень признателен.
     
  4. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Румынские войска "in actiоn" (Бессарабия)....
    Местный житель показывает место где спрятались жидо-комиссары....Антонеску на фронте.... Румыны возле захваченой сов.артиллерии в центре Кишинева.... Для того, чтобы немцы не спутали румын с РККА рум. солдаты вязали белые повязки на рукавах....
     

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  5. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    ....... Рум. солдат с белой повязкой на рукаве.... Местные жители приветствую солдат "великой" Румынии . Румынский танк R-35 2-ой танковой дивизии....
     

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  6. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Румыны сопровождают сов.военнопленных (Бессарабия)....
     

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  7. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Ответ румынского правительства на ультиматум англичан....

    Romanian answer to the British ultimatum of 30 November 1941

    Romanian Royal Government has taken notice of the communique that Her Majesty’s Government transmitted by the means of United States of America’s Legation.

    Given the situation brought about by this note, Romanian Government is obliged to offer for consideration the following review:

    In June 1940 Romania was the victim of a grave aggression of USSR. Disregarding the rules of Nation Rights, the historical rights and the rights of self-determination, as well as the obligations formally assumed by the acts of 9 February 1929 and 3 July 1933, the Government of USSR has taken over Bessarabia, Bukovina and the Hertza Region of Moldavia.

    Graver than this – and that is a fact that Romanian Royal Government wants to declare openly, USSR is the main offender in the case of territorial changes on other Romanian borders, changes that Romania had to endure because of the Soviet aggression.

    In this light, all the acts of neutrality, non-aggression and recognition of rights made by USSR to Romania between 1929 and 1940, can be seen as dissimulation means for goals of expansion and usurpation upon Romania, USSR taking advantage of the first critical and complex international situation, to unleash not only her invasion, but to bring about hard conditions on Romania, which had to choose between its total collapse and anarchy in South-Eastern Europe, and a temporary state of usurpation. Having achieved its first goals of aggression, the Soviet government did not cease the provocations, showing up its will of continuing the policy of expansion and invasion.

    We bring into attention:
    The brutal occupation of four islets on the Danube in the fall of 1940;
    Daily harasses at borders and the continuous strive to change the borderline by force;
    The tendency to take over the shipping routes on the seaside Danube;
    Steady intrusions of the Russian airforce, of 2-7 surveys per day during April-June, with all Romanian protests, proving the preparation of military operations against Romania;
    The massive concentration of military forces at the Northern and South-Eastern borders of Romania, with operative disposals and reconnaissance raids. The Soviet forces deployed on Romanian border comprised 30 infantry divisions, 8 cavalry divisions and 14 motorized brigades;
    The attempts of Commissar Molotov to sap the security of Romania, and the revealment of Russian goals of expansion, by speech or actions towards foreign statesmen;
    In the same time, Bessarabia and Bukovina were subject of organized destruction, tens of thousands of men were suppressed or imprisoned, hundreds of thousands Romanians were banished into Siberia, therefor population of centres as Kishinev was severely diminished.

    In face of this grave situation and under the pressure of the threat rendered by the many Soviet divisions at the borders, on 22 June 1941 Romania has set in a military action for preserving its national entity against the never ceasing aggression and for re-establishing its stolen rights.

    Romanian Royal Government strongly believes that its military action was the only way to fulfill its salvation from the Russian threat, a new aggression being impending, as proven afterwards by the most objective and categorical findings.

    To defend its national entity, to re-establish its rights and to preserve the order and civilization of the South-East (of Europe), Romania had no other choice than to fight beside the Great Power (Germany) which engaged in this historical fight to defend the European civilization and to counter the invasion that was to come upon Romania and Finland first, then upon the rest of Europe.

    Engaged in this war, Romania respects the rules of honor.

    On 22 June, Great Britain was not allied with USSR. Nevertheless, on 30 November 1941, Great Britain considers that Romania carries out aggression acts against Russia, the ally of Great Britain.

    Romania did not carry out and does not carry out aggression acts.

    The military action which Romania has undertaken is a legitimate act of defense against the Russian aggression, begun in 1940 and following after, and the military operations for cleansing the border, for reducing the military center of Odessa, which at 45-km away from the liman of Dniester was a focus of permanent threat, as well as Crimea was a center of airpower covering the Romanian territory and oil; these operations are natural military actions on a front born by Russian aggression, and which Romania had to undertake in order to secure a zone of peace.

    Romanian Government fulfills its duty to remember Her Majesty’s Government that:
    At the Paris Convention of 28 October 1920, Great Britain officially stated that “the borders regulated by the present treaty, as well as the Romanian sovereignty on the territories stipulated in it, cannot be reconsidered…”
    A series of international regulations between 1920 and 1939 required the borders to be respected in a solidary manner.
    The Great Britain’s declaration of guarantee, of 13 April 1939, stipulated that “in case of an action that threatens the independence of Romania … Her Majesty’s Government is obliged to offer its assistance”.

    In spite of these, when on 26 June 1940 USSR divulged its aggression, accomplished in the following days, Her Majesy’s Government did not undertake any action to defend or to respect the guarantees offered to Romania.

    The Romanian Royal Government, remembering Her Majesty’s Government the terrible sufferings and threats, usurpations and occupations that Romanian people had endured since the 18th century from its Eastern neighbors, and the healthy anti-communist position that Romania displayed in the last two decades, defending since 1919 the South-Eastern (Europe) against social disorder and invasion, must emphasize the fact that in the past, this kind of attitude was strongly supported by Great Britain.

    Arguments can be found in many declarations of English statesmen between 1919 and 1939, declarations which raised the alarm of communist threat against the social and political security of Europe.

    Romanian Royal Government believes that what Romania had accomplished by this day, it was the only thing that could be done for defending the South-Eastern (Europe) and for preserving the Great institutions of European civilization.

    Romania was the victim of an aggression with grave consequences in 1940, and it was living under the threat of further aggressions; what it did in 1941 was the only thing to be done. But this is nothing else than a self defense and a sacrifice for civilization.

    6 December 1941
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  8. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Ион и Михай Антонеску во время религиозной службы....
     

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  9. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Одесса. Пленные РККА (рум.солдат с белой повязкой на рукаве)...Убитые рум.солдаты...Scheider PAK.....Румыны в Одессе.... Одесский порт и вокзал....
     

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  10. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Румыны в Одессе-маме.....Подбитый румынский R-2 близ Карпово..... R-2 1-ой танковой дивизии.... Порт и вокзал Одессы....
     

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  11. Scorzeny

    Scorzeny Oberschütze

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    Румынские горные стрелки..... Их генерал Аврамеску.... Захваченные румынами пулеметы РККА.... Румынские горные стрелки возле подбитого сов. танка БТ-5....
     

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  12. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Румыны и танкисты на фоне бронепоезда "Комсомол Чувашии"
     

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  13. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Немецко-венгерский наблюдательный пост :cool:
     

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  14. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Подскажите, на фотке румыны? :rolleyes:


    п.с. Фотка только такая :(
     

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  15. SK1N

    SK1N Stabsgefreiter

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    Румыны
     
  16. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Спасибо :) . Просто один черт выдает их за казаков, решил перестраховаться ;)
     
  17. SK1N

    SK1N Stabsgefreiter

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    Румыны 100%, белые повязки для того чтоб немцы не перепутали их с РККА, шапки, пряхи, патронташ выдает их на 100%
     
  18. Parazit

    Parazit Gefreiter

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    Может кто нибудь знает, как румыны относились к местному населению и к советским военнопленным?
     
  19. SK1N

    SK1N Stabsgefreiter

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    Ко всяким "большевикулам" хреново, а к местному населению так же как и на Северной Буковине.
     
  20. comrade

    comrade Schütze

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    В начале войны пропагандистские цели, то есть в целом так как подобает при агрессии. Население частично депортировалось , те кто оставался соответственно ни в чем не нуждался.
    Конечно были и нарушения , при военных действиях это не остановить: воровство, военные преступления. Не новость как относились к военно пленным в период с конца 1941 года до конца войны : часто в лучшем случае депортация в лагерь. ....
     
  21. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Венгерская кавалерия.
     

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  22. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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    Вот еще венгерский патруль, а какие перья :eek: :)
     

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  23. KBH

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    Верблюд, немец и румыны
     

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  24. DUG

    DUG Stabsfeldwebel

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  25. KBH

    KBH Stabsgefreiter

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  26. axis88

    axis88 Борец со злом

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    Ответ: Армии Венгрии и Румынии

    Красавцы, как будто осень 1914 г. на дворе.........